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Wolliver's avatar

I thought you were being too patronizing with the “dork shit” remarks, until I looked up the Wheel of Time and tried to read a basic synopsis. Yeah this is incredibly nerdy in a way that even Lord of the Rings or Game of Thrones can’t match. The premise immediately hits you with so many new presuppositions you’re supposed to make. I had to stop and breathe for a minute with all the goofy proper nouns.

Nevertheless, I am a nerdy worldbuilder and will continue to devise goofy ideas for the story. My book will include the plot synopsis of the fictional two-act comic opera that satirizes one of the story’s main political factions and nobody will stop me.

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I don't entirely agree with this. A novel, and especially not a science fiction or fantasy novel, is not merely a set of characters performing actions in a vacuum, a novel, at least one worth reading, has place, ambience, and context, and these things inform the characters. The worst thing you can do, really, is to include all the dork shit, but then ignore it when building your characters, and write your characters as modern Americans or Mary Sues or otherwise disconnected from the dork shit. This makes the worldbuilding really jump out as an alien intrusion, as "dork shit". Tolkien's characters, by contrast, aren't separate from the worldbuilding, they are a part of the world and a part of the worldbuilding. Every thought in their heads and every word that comes out of their mouths is informed by the context of their peoples, their societies, and their histories. They are worldbuilding, they speak worldbuilding, they act worldbuilding, but it goes unnoticed as such because there are no seams between the characters and the context. If Tolkien didn't have all that dork shit in the back of his mind when writing Gandalf, he wouldn't be that mysterious, otherworldly, angelic being we know, but a guy in a robe and wizard hat who talks in riddles for no real reason. Even the style of the narration, the deliberately archaic English Tolkien uses, is informed by the lore of the provenance of the Red Book of Westmarch, but flavors the entire story with the ambience of Middle-earth without you actually having to know anything about the Red Book of Westmarch. He reveals a lot more of his worldbuilding in the course of the story than you might think from a first impression, but so much of what seems like character is also worldbuilding, and the characters are infinitely richer and more interesting for it.

Of course, the problem with Tokien's approach as a general approach is that the execution is really, really hard, and most writers will never have the talent Tolkien had in his left nut. Such is life.

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