Thanks (to both of you). And while I was at the old DW page, I found something really wild... (CCing you both in new post as images not allowed in replies.)
Hi all - enjoyed the podcast. Working through all the Gibson episodes now ... I do have a few comments (admittedly with a bit of Gibson fan bias):
(1) I felt like his intentional focus on ideas/concept/language and going light on character/POV/why allowed it to be influential and open for re-interpretation. Had he "fixed" or addressed some of the gaps you all called out ... might it have made it less influential on others?
(2) I think you guys said "Neuromancer making contact with an alien AI" a dumb ending; I kind of liked it because it suggest once a "being" is much more powerful/intelligence/aware than all of humans, it no longer cares about human issues and is looking for its own kind? I thought that was a great concept to end on ...
Yeah, I do think Neuromancer would have been less influential had it filled in all the gaps. I think the interpretive space created here was part of the appeal. That being said, I think the novel would be better as a novel if he focused more on character.
Enjoyed this discussion. I first read Neuromancer in the late 80s as a teen, and it blew my mind. I had no idea what the fuck was happening for about 75% of the book and I loved it. It had its own language, written in a kind of prose, and the sheer imagination and concepts it gave me were fantastic. I re-read it recently and still really loved it. It’s dark and gritty and nasty and amazing.
Altered Carbon to me is quite a different thing, still gritty and very violent and awesome in its own way. Must read them both again.
Such a great discussion on a work I was shamefully unaware of. Really enjoyed the overview and analysis of it, especially from the perspective of a writer.
Never read Altered Carbon, but loved aspects of the first season of the show. Need to finish playing Cyberpunk 2077. Can’t wait to dive into Neuromancer eventually.
Thanks! I think learning to read like a writer is an important skill that I rarely see discussed. But it's probably going to be a consistent theme around here
Diving in. Art by Deathburger.
Great podcast!
Stupid question that I MAY have asked before (If so I humbly apologize): digital version of Dying World?
Amazon is being weird. I need to send them an e-mail, but I guess you have to go to DW's old page to get the ebook. Sorry for the confusion (and thank you for asking). https://www.amazon.com/Dying-World-Gods-Fare-Better-ebook/dp/B0BNLK9NJM
Thanks (to both of you). And while I was at the old DW page, I found something really wild... (CCing you both in new post as images not allowed in replies.)
Hm, there used to be a digital version but I don't see it anymore. I'll check with JDO.
Hi all - enjoyed the podcast. Working through all the Gibson episodes now ... I do have a few comments (admittedly with a bit of Gibson fan bias):
(1) I felt like his intentional focus on ideas/concept/language and going light on character/POV/why allowed it to be influential and open for re-interpretation. Had he "fixed" or addressed some of the gaps you all called out ... might it have made it less influential on others?
(2) I think you guys said "Neuromancer making contact with an alien AI" a dumb ending; I kind of liked it because it suggest once a "being" is much more powerful/intelligence/aware than all of humans, it no longer cares about human issues and is looking for its own kind? I thought that was a great concept to end on ...
thanks!
Hey Michael! Thanks for listening.
Yeah, I do think Neuromancer would have been less influential had it filled in all the gaps. I think the interpretive space created here was part of the appeal. That being said, I think the novel would be better as a novel if he focused more on character.
Enjoyed this discussion. I first read Neuromancer in the late 80s as a teen, and it blew my mind. I had no idea what the fuck was happening for about 75% of the book and I loved it. It had its own language, written in a kind of prose, and the sheer imagination and concepts it gave me were fantastic. I re-read it recently and still really loved it. It’s dark and gritty and nasty and amazing.
Altered Carbon to me is quite a different thing, still gritty and very violent and awesome in its own way. Must read them both again.
Awesome! Can’t wait to listen.
Such a great discussion on a work I was shamefully unaware of. Really enjoyed the overview and analysis of it, especially from the perspective of a writer.
Never read Altered Carbon, but loved aspects of the first season of the show. Need to finish playing Cyberpunk 2077. Can’t wait to dive into Neuromancer eventually.
Thanks! I think learning to read like a writer is an important skill that I rarely see discussed. But it's probably going to be a consistent theme around here